At the top of every episode of Forever35, a popular podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves, Kate Spencer and co-host Doree Shafrir always begin with this disclaimer: “They’re not experts. They’re just two friends who like to talk about serums.” After over 150 episodes and countless mini-episodes where the duo delves into topics ranging from beauty to friendships to mental health and more, it’s safe to say that Spencer and Shafrir have become experts in their own right.
As a longtime fan of the pod, I jumped at the opportunity to learn more about the real-life self-care practices of Spencer, one half of the team who talks about self-care practices for a living. Since serums are always hotly debated on the show, you'll know Spencer has some stellar skincare recommendations to share. Keep scrolling to see all the wellness rituals that help this L.A.-based writer, podcast host, and mom of two to wind down.